About the show
What do we talk about on the podcast?
This is not a running news podcast and we’re not chasing the hottest stories in ultrarunning (usually). Running 200-milers and multi-night events is inherently a little nuts, so we like to get to know the stories behind the people who show up at the start line. And we like to have a little fun while we talk about it.
Human interest stories
Runners of all ages and abilities, and the stories behind the people at the start line.
Training techniques
We go deep into training techniques for the longest races out there.
Nutrition
The dos and don’ts of fueling for 200 miles and beyond, plus some questionable ultra snack reviews.
Recovery
How to recover well, or not, and get ready for the next one because there is no finish line.
Sleep strategy
The elusive sleep strategy, discussed ad nauseam. We’ll stop once we’ve finally figured it out.
Course previews
Detailed, section-by-section previews of many of the top 200-milers.
Our listeners range from rookies who are “200 curious” to seasoned veterans of the sport. The 200+ mile distance is growing fast, and runners of every age, ability and background are still figuring out the best way to take on these challenges. Elites can learn from party-pacers, and we can all learn from each other. Many listeners tell us they learned everything they needed to know about 200-milers from our podcast, but if you’re ready to toe the line, we also offer great coaching options.

Meet the hosts
Kevin and Peter: a co-hosting match made in heaven?
Kevin and Peter met on a runcation to run the iconic Grand Canyon rim-to-rim-to-rim route. They were total strangers with one mutual friend, one of “the Gabes.” They didn’t even run together that day, but the chemistry was undeniable.
The rest is history.
Tell me moreCoaching
Train with us.
Ready to take things a step further? Whether it’s your first ultramarathon or your 10th 200-miler, Distance To Empty coaches Kevin and Melanie will get you to the starting line fit, healthy, and ready to go.
- 1:1 coachingPersonal plans and check-ins with Kevin or Melanie.
- Full Tank group coachingGroup coaching with Coach Kevin and coaching channels in Discord.
- Race-specific plansTraining plans built for 200+ mile races.

Support the podcast
Fuel the show. Fill your tank.
What started as casual fun has grown into a full-blown podcast, much to Kevin and Peter’s surprise. Paid subscribers support the work Kevin and Peter put into every episode and keep the engine running. In return, you get our private Discord community, bonus content and more.
Join the community.
- Private Discord community
- Behind-the-scenes updates and banter from the hosts
- Help keep the show going strong
Go deeper into the journey.
- Everything in Quarter Tank
- Monthly subscriber-only bonus episodes
- Quarterly live Q&A episodes with the hosts
- Full video episodes on YouTube and livestreams
Train, plan, and go the distance.
- Everything in Half Tank
- Group coaching with Coach Kevin
- Race-specific training plans for 200+ mile races
- Coaching channels in Discord
Contact
Say hello to Kevin and Peter.
We love to hear from our listeners! Use the form below to send us topics to cover, guests to interview, snacks to try or to just say hi! We’ll do our best to reply as quickly as possible.
Prefer email? distancetoemptypod@gmail.com
Use this form for any sponsorship inquiries.